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alexDx
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Some more info:
This is happening on all pages on the site.
We tested deactivating all plugins (other than Yoast) and activated the default theme (WordPress 2024) and the issue is still happening.
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alexDx
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More troubleshooting, we tried this plugin: https://wordpress.org/plugins/yoast-test-helper/
clicked on the ‘Reset indexables tables & migrations’, ‘Reset Prominent words calculation’, and ‘Reset Internal link counter’ buttons.
Now all titles and metas for ALL pages are set to the exact same title and meta tag. Issue still persists as well.
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alexDx
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Its definitely the new version of Yoast. downgraded to 22.9 and the issue is no longer happening.
Hello @alexdx,
I’m sorry about your experience and thanks for sharing your troubleshooting steps. I checked the URL and you have Yoast SEO v23.0 and the SEO title below:
<title>Vet Near Me [Zip Code] - [Hospital Name] - [City/State]</title>
<meta name="description" content="[Hospital Name] is a progressive veterinary medical hospital located in [City/State]. We'd love to meet your pet today!" />
We tested deactivating all plugins (other than Yoast) and activated the default theme (WordPress 2024) and the issue is still happening.
Just to confirm, when you deactivate all plugins except Yoast SEO 23.0 and switch to a default theme, do the SEO title and meta description save? Is your change reflected in the page source?
clicked on the ‘Reset indexables tables & migrations’, ‘Reset Prominent words calculation’, and ‘Reset Internal link counter’ buttons.
Did you re-run the SEO data optimization in WordPress > Yoast SEO > Tools after clicking those buttons?
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alexDx
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Hi, to answer your questions:
Just to confirm, when you deactivate all plugins except Yoast SEO 23.0 and switch to a default theme, do the SEO title and meta description save? Is your change reflected in the page source?
They do not save, the issue is exactly the same after deactivating all plugins except Yoast SEO 23.0 and switching to a default theme.
Did you re-run the SEO data optimization in WordPress > Yoast SEO > Tools after clicking those buttons?
Yoast won’t let me re-run it. Says it won’t run on non-production environments? We don’t actually have a live site for this, as it is a template we are building out.
Yoast won’t let me re-run it. Says it won’t run on non-production environments? We don’t actually have a live site for this, as it is a template we are building out.
We disabled it on non-production sites as usually we don’t recommend running the SEO data optimization on non-production websites (other than your live site).You can try the temporary workaround below and change things back when done:
The wp_get_environment_type() WordPress function’s default value on a live site should have been 'production' . So, you need to change the environment type for your staging. You can set the WP_ENVIRONMENT_TYPE constant to 'production' by adding the line below to the wp-config.php file.
define( ‘WP_ENVIRONMENT_TYPE’, ‘production’ );
You can read more about it here. You may also reach out to your web hosting provider to override the default settings if you are facing issues.
Do let us know how it goes.
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alexDx
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I will try the above, and report back. one thing I have noticed is this problem ONLY occurs on staging environments. We created a production version of the site above and it works fine in production, but if we move it back to a staging site, the issue happens again. I’ve tested this on a handful of Kinsta staging sites and the issue is happening on all of them with Yoast version 23.0, if we downgrade to 22.9 the issue goes away. If we push to live, the issue goes away … very strange.
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alexDx
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Also just to be clear if we make changes to the titles/metas on staging and push to live, the title/meta updates don’t push over to live unless we go into each page/post and manually click “Save/Update” then the update goes through.
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alexDx
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We added this line:
define( ‘WP_ENVIRONMENT_TYPE’, ‘production’ );
installed and ran this plugin:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/yoast-test-helper/
clicked on the ‘Reset indexables tables & migrations’, ‘Reset Prominent words calculation’, and ‘Reset Internal link counter’ buttons.
Went to Yoast SEO > Tools and re-ran SEO data optimization and the issue appears to be fixed.
Why is this only happening on the new version of Yoast? Are we just going to have to do this for every staging site we use going forward, so that we can do SEO changes in staging before moving to production? This would be a huge hassle to do every time we want to update SEO on a staging environment ….
Thanks for letting me know the issue was fixed. I’m not entirely sure why that happened but doubt it’s specific to the latest version. Clearly, it’s an issue with the wrong data stored in the WordPress database. You shouldn’t need to do this on every staging site; it must be peculiar to that site.
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alexDx
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It is NOT only happening on this particular site. it is happening on EVERY SINGLE Kinsta staging site we have tested (a total of 25 staging sites). We have this plugin installed on 300+ sites, but we will need to find another solution for our SEO if we can’t get this figured out.
We have tested this on BRAND NEW STAGING environments and it is happening on the latest version.
The issue is happening on ALL STAGING SITES with Yoast version 23.0 on Kinsta (and possibly other hosting providers too), if we downgrade to 22.9 the issue goes away on the staging sites.
It IS an issue with the new version. You guys need to look into this. Everything was working fine until the latest version was released.
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alexDx
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So I ask again:
Why is this only happening on the new version of Yoast? Are we just going to have to do this for every staging site we use going forward, so that we can do SEO changes in staging before moving to production? This would be a huge hassle to do every time we want to update SEO on a staging environment ….
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alexDx
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BRAND NEW Staging with NO PLUGINS and default theme:
https://stg-yoasttest-stagingad.kinsta.cloud/
Issue is happening here. BUT NOT on the live version: https://yoasttest.kinsta.cloud/
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alexDx
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ONLY plugin on the above yoasttest site I setup is Yoast SEO 23.0 so there are NO THEME conflicts, no plugin conflicts. Its an issue with the new version on non-production environments.
Our recommendation is that you disable indexables on your staging sites to prevent that data from syncing between the two environments. You can disable indexables with this setting in the wp-config.php or this filter.
To prevent the sync, you’ll need to check with Kinsta on how to not sync the Yoast SEO custom tables.
