| MF-Warburg | |
| Apr 29 2016, 10:12 PM2016-04-29 22:12:27 (UTC+0) |
The language committee has approved the creation of Wikipedia Jamaican.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Jamaican
Language code: jam
Site URL: jam.wikipedia.org
Project name: Wikipidia
Project namespace: Wikipidia
Project talk namespace: Wikipidia diskoshan
Project logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-jam.svg
Timezone: UTC-5
Local file uploads: disabled
Thank you.
| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Resolved | Krenair | T134017 Create Wikipedia Jamaican | |||
| Resolved | ori | T135029 adywiki and jamwiki are missing the associated *_p databases with appropriate views | |||
| Restricted Task | |||||
| Resolved | • chasemp | T138450 maintain-replicas.pl unmaintained, unmaintainable | |||
| Resolved | Dzahn | T140970 wikistats: add tcy.wikipedia, jam.wikipedia (and check for other missing ones) |
"Please do not start editing this new site. This site has a test project on the Wikimedia Incubator (or on the Beta Wikiversity or on the Old Wikisource) and it will be imported to here."
@Mtherwjs please don't just re-close after Krenair already explained it's not quite done yet. it's in the process of being created. several patches are needed.
@Aklapper @Mtherwjs please stop edit war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR
Change 286553 abandoned by Alex Monk:
Add jamwiki to restbase and labs DNS configs
Reason:
Just noticed this is actually a duplicate of Idd6582be
Actually, maybe I was wrong: https://jam.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/html/User%3AKrenair%2Fsandbox?redirect=false
{"type":"https://mediawiki.org/wiki/HyperSwitch/errors/not_found","title":"Not found.","method":"get","uri":"/jam.wikipedia.org/v1/page/html/User%3AKrenair%2Fsandbox"}
Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-04T20:08:44Z] <subbu> finished deploying parsoid sha b0d015fa (T134017)
@Andrew, @yuvipanda, @chasemp: ^
Did you guys do the Wikidata specific magic? @VIGNERON reported at the Wikidata Village Pump that he is unable to add a link to the "jamwiki". I checked and I was unable to do so too.
In T134017#2277957, @Krenair wrote:
On all Wikidata clients (all Wikipedias, Commons, Wikidata itself, …)?
I think I ran the script on aawiki with --site-group wikipedia --force-protocol https
In T134017#2278863, @Krenair wrote:I think I ran the script on aawiki with --site-group wikipedia --force-protocol https
It needs to be run across all Wikimedia-Wikis, but beware the comments on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Add_a_wiki#Wikidata, that script once broke parsing on enwiki for a few minutes.
I don't think addWiki runs it across all wikis. I wouldn't be comfortable with it doing that anyway given the potential for breaking other wikis. But I also don't want to end every wiki creation by opening new tickets to finish off the job.
ran the script on test.wikidata, test2wiki, etc. and have some backups of the tables. now can try running it for other wikis
ran the script on all wikis in wikidataclient.dblist
I can already add jamwiki site links on test.wikidata. It might take up to an hour (due to caching) before they can be added on Wikidata.
I can add jamwiki links using QuickStatements (e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=334730538) but if I try and do it on Wikidata itself, it doesn't find anything for "jam" and won't give me an input field to enter the page name. I tried a forced refresh and I tried clearing local storage like suggested on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team/Archive/2016/02#Add_support_for_ady: but still no luck. :/
I've also noticed that there are a lot of pages not appearing in the categories they're supposed to be in (compare these search results with what is shown in the category itself) and a lot of pages which have templates showing up as red links. Doing a null edit on a page fixes it for that page, is there a script which can be run to fix it for all of them?
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q889&curid=1211&diff=334725206&oldid=333223017 looks promising, but I don't see jamwiki in the interface yet. It does show up at https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=wbsetsitelink now (interesting way of sorting btw)
In T134017#2280141, @Nikki wrote:I've also noticed that there are a lot of pages not appearing in the categories they're supposed to be in (compare these search results with what is shown in the category itself) and a lot of pages which have templates showing up as red links. Doing a null edit on a page fixes it for that page, is there a script which can be run to fix it for all of them?
Change 288097 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aude):
Add ady and jam to interwiki sort orders
In T134017#2282715, @Krenair wrote:
Possibly, although it seems like I'm seeing two things because purging the page will fix any templates or normal links which are incorrectly showing up as red links, but only a null edit fixes the categories.
@Multichill sounds like a caching issue. Does it work for you in the interface with debug=true?
It looks like things are coming along. Somebody also needs to deal with language hierarchies in the Babel extension. I can manually add "|jam-x" to Babel on any page. However, when I look at my global user page while on jamwiki, it is not providing "jam-0" (or anything else) in response to my coding for {{int:lang}}-0.
After this ticket is done we should really make one ultimate master list that lists each and every step needed for creating a Wikipedia, from step 1 by adding it in DNS to the very last thing in an extension, all in one place. With checkboxes to go through next time / phabricator template /something.
We already have wikitech:Add_a_wiki, but people like to add additional steps without documenting them there.
In T134017#2286036, @StevenJ81 wrote:It looks like things are coming along. Somebody also needs to deal with language hierarchies in the Babel extension. I can manually add "|jam-x" to Babel on any page. However, when I look at my global user page while on jamwiki, it is not providing "jam-0" (or anything else) in response to my coding for {{int:lang}}-0.
The {{int:lang}} thing is a feature (or bug?) you have to enable yourself. See meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Lang&namespace=8
You have to create https://jam.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Lang with contents "jam" and create subpages for all the languages, so for example https://jam.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Lang/fr with contents "fr".
In the description, it says the project namespace should be called "Wikipidia", but on jam.wikipedia.org it seems to still be "Wikipedia"
Change 288628 had a related patch set uploaded (by Alex Monk):
Set meta namespace names for jamwiki
Portal namespace
During the life on Incubator, a portal namespace have been prepared for Jamaica, https://jam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puotal:Jumieka
T135479 takes care to transform that into a namespace.
Core namespaces
Localisation in MediaWiki core is still missing, I've seen a lot of "talk" instead of "diskoshan".
I've tried playing with this language in the drop-downs of multilingual projects like Meta and Wikidata. On Wikidata, where the Babel box's header and footer change languages when you alter the interface language, jam works for that purpose. But at both Wikidata and Meta I have coding in my Babel box that should add jam-0 when I change the interface language. But that doesn't work. (It does work in general. (Test, say, Hindi.) Any thought as to why that might be?
(Note: this is relevant to the project because my meta page is my user page on jamwiki, and I'd like it to show jam-0 there.)
See my comment just above (3rd comment above this).
One thing that needs to be done, apparently, on jamwiki, is to create MediaWiki:Lang with the content "jam". But do all those language subpages need to be created, or can they be automatically generated?
That still doesn't answer the question as to how to make jam work on multilingual projects.
Still need the replica database and views created. I'm waiting for ops to run their script for this.
So I've chatted with @jcrespo and the production side db stuff is done. There has to be some update run in labs, but there is confusion regarding is implementation.
Another identical issue to this is on T135029. T135029#2304213 outlines the issue.
I'll make sure this is listed under blockers for our Monday Ops team meeting.
@Dzahn check your mail [Note: I did not sent him any private email, just pointed him to a discussion where this is supposed to have been fixed, which I believe it is- although I have not personally checked].
Discovery should confirm it, I suppose.
